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    Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:03 pm



    Help, where did they go? They show up for other tanks, not the Green Pz IV w/Schurtzen type.



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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by lockie on Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:48 am

    KurtTank wrote:
    Help, where did they go? They show up for other tanks, not the Green Pz IV w/Schurtzen type.
    I think there are two reasons:
    1. error (missed { OR ;) in the config file pz4.engcfg
    2. error in common_res where shells doesn't correspond to the gun
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by frinik on Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:54 am

    I have had that error in the past.In the tech_cfg file make sure the entires are like mine:

    KWK40L48, s_gun, db_gun, head1, wp_loader, , 0.1, 0, 1, 0;
    MG34, s_mgun_02, , head1, wp_loader;
    MG34, s_mgun_01, , head2, wp_mgunner;
    }

    //áîåêîìïëåêò 87
    shells()//H green
    {
    //èìÿ ñíàðÿäà, êîëè÷åñòâî
    PZGR39_75L48, 40 0, 0;
    PZGR39_75L48, 24, 0, 0;
    SPRGR38_75L48, 46, 0, 1;
    GR38HLB_75L48, 5, 0, 2;

    BUL_792T, 3150;
    }

    If the L48 is missing then the shells don't appear I think.
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:22 pm



    lockie wrote:
    KurtTank wrote:
    Help, where did they go? They show up for other tanks, not the Green Pz IV w/Schurtzen type.
    I think there are two reasons:
    1. error (missed { OR Wink in the config file pz4.engcfg
    2. error in common_res where shells doesn't correspond to the gun

    Thanks, Frinik nailed it. Somehow I never noticed the missing shells? I can't think it was in STA 1.0 or one of the updates??



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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:23 pm



    frinik wrote:I have had that error in the past.In the tech_cfg file make sure the entires are like mine:

    KWK40L48, s_gun, db_gun, head1, wp_loader, , 0.1, 0, 1, 0;
    MG34, s_mgun_02, , head1, wp_loader;
    MG34, s_mgun_01, , head2, wp_mgunner;
    }

    //áîåêîìïëåêò 87
    shells()//H green
    {
    //èìÿ ñíàðÿäà, êîëè÷åñòâî
    PZGR39_75L48, 40 0, 0;
    PZGR39_75L48, 24, 0, 0;
    SPRGR38_75L48, 46, 0, 1;
    GR38HLB_75L48, 5, 0, 2;

    BUL_792T, 3150;
    }

    If the L48 is missing then the shells don't appear I think.


    You are right! Somehow I never noticed the missing shells? I can't think it was in STA 1.0 or one of the updates?? Thanks!


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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:28 pm



    And same for the tan chamo w/schurtzen Pz IV. Shocked


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    Post by frinik on Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:12 pm

    Well I found that mistake back then in one of the NTA mods and then alter in STA. Had to search systematically until I found the cause of the error. I already posted about a couple of times in the past. I guess it should be in a special sticky dedicated to SF errors and how to correct them.
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:45 pm



    frinik wrote:Well I found that mistake back then in one of the NTA mods and then alter in STA. Had to search systematically until I found the cause of the error. I already posted about a couple of times in the past. I guess it should be in a special sticky dedicated to SF errors and how to correct them.

    Thanks. Is the issue corrected in the current STA? I have been using STA 1.0 for a long time now, with the September 2015 update. Maybe I should get the latest, but I'm afraid it will undo all the changes I've made, especially if I don't get them all into my KurtTank MOD, lol!


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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by frinik on Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:31 pm

    Yes Lockie corrected it when he released STA 1.1 or 1.2 I can't remember exactly. No worries the error is minimal and does not prevent one form enjoying the fruits of your work.
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:58 pm



    frinik wrote:Yes Lockie corrected it when he released STA 1.1 or 1.2 I can't remember exactly. No worries the error is minimal and does not prevent one form enjoying the fruits of your work.


    Perfect, I will add the changes from Lockie to my work. That should get it up to date!


    By separation of the types, do you mean new sub-categories for each tank, to show up in the ME units window?
    Tiger II
    .........with infantry
    .........with APC Grenadiers
    .........with other heavy tanks

    etc.? Seems there is not a big enough window for that idea.


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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by frinik on Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:39 pm

    I agree which is why I am mulling making a "diet" or "lite"version of your mod with less variants/ combinations.

    Or if keeping the same mod then splitting the tank only combos from the mixed tank-infantry ones.
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:03 pm



    frinik wrote:I agree which is why I am mulling making a "diet" or "lite"version of your mod with less variants/ combinations.

    I'll work on both. Won't be too hard now that I get it. What I need is the corrected entries that were duplicates.

    frinik wrote:Or if keeping the same mod then splitting the tank only combos from the mixed tank-infantry ones.

    I believe for a sub-category I just have to add a line in loc_kit_tools, or in a new mod in the same folder. That would add/overwrite the entries, right?


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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:06 pm



    frinik wrote:Yes Lockie corrected it when he released STA 1.1 or 1.2 I can't remember exactly. No worries the error is minimal and does not prevent one form enjoying the fruits of your work.

    True, should I take the corrected work from STA 1.1 or 1.2 and redo my work? It would be easy, and I can work on the lite version and sub-categories.

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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by frinik on Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:30 am

    It would definitely save you time!
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:11 pm




    Okay, here is a new category for Medium Tanks With Infantry. Maybe I should be more specific, i.e., "Pz IV H Tanks With Infantry". I like that concept better, and I can create many new categories of all the changes to the Units Menu. I have started a MOD for it.  cheers  And I will do a Lite version as well.



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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by lockie on Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:55 pm

    KurtTank wrote:Okay, here is a new category for Medium Tanks With Infantry.
    I think this new category Medium Tanks With Infantry will be a bit confusing. I explain why. Here is a desant (mounted infantry) on the tank. So, what is the difference between desant and with infantry?
    In both cases we do have infantry.

    BTW
    Would u like to place desant on Pz.IV also?
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:57 pm



    lockie wrote:
    KurtTank wrote:Okay, here is a new category for Medium Tanks With Infantry.
    I think this new category Medium Tanks With Infantry will be a bit confusing. I explain why. Here is a desant (mounted infantry) on the tank. So, what is the difference between desant and with infantry?
    In both cases we do have infantry.

    You are right. I can make a change to "Pz IV w/mounted inf" and "Pz IV w/inf squad" and "Pz IV w/inf plat" etc. It would break it up and make it easier to display and find the variety of unit combinations. There are endless possibilities. And my work does not have to be included in any update, maybe just as a separate MOD, and if enough people like it, it can then be included in a future update. It is easy work for me make these and the new categories.


    lockie wrote:BTW
    Would u like to place desant on Pz.IV also?

    Yes, that would be great. And some other tanks, too, if you have time.





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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:42 pm



    How is this:


    And mounted inf example:


    And added APC Plat:



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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by lockie on Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:13 am

    KurtTank wrote:
    I can make a change to "Pz IV w/mounted inf" and "Pz IV w/inf squad" and "Pz IV w/inf plat" etc.
    It is much better! welldone

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    lockie wrote:BTW
    Would u like to place desant on Pz.IV also?
    Yes, that would be great. And some other tanks, too, if you have time.
    Yes, I've time, but I'd like to share my knowledge. If u're interested I may help u to create a desant for Pz.IV.
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:10 pm



    KurtTank wrote:
    I can make a change to "Pz IV w/mounted inf" and "Pz IV w/inf squad" and "Pz IV w/inf plat" etc.
    lockie wrote:It is much better! welldone

    Thanks!

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    lockie wrote:BTW
    Would u like to place desant on Pz.IV also?
    Yes, that would be great. And some other tanks, too, if you have time.
    lockie wrote:Yes, I've time, but I'd like to share my knowledge. If u're interested I may help u to create a desant for Pz.IV.

    Yes, that sounds good, too!


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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:32 pm



    Okay, here is an example of what I will do with my work so far. Each type of tank (Pz VI A and B will be together) will be in a separate category with different combinations of units:



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    Post by frinik on Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:46 am

    I love the idea! cheers2
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    Post by lockie on Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:03 pm

    KurtTank wrote:
    lockie wrote:Yes, I've time, but I'd like to share my knowledge. If u're interested I may help u to create a desant for Pz.IV.

    Yes, that sounds good, too!
    OK, then create a topic ie "How to make a desant on the tank?" and we may start the tutor jeep
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    Re: Missing Shells?

    Post by KurtTank on Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:45 am



    Updated categories for my Unit MOD:




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