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    New tank models for SABOW

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    Which cockpit is first to make?

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    New tank models for SABOW

    Post by lockie on Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:42 pm

    Hold onto your lug nuts...
    it's time for an overhaul!  Cool

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    Hi, Guys!
    I'd like to make an announcement as for the new models in SABOW.
    It is no secret that game SABOW is a very limited with a tanks under user' control. Also there is no secret that STA team doesn't has SABOW as a favorite game Smile
    But due to the very high interest from the users and some requests, which we get via PM, I think it's time to do something for this game Wink What do u think?
    But our first goal is SF. It goes without saying. We want to get a Source code and thus we're interested to get some money. It's not a secret anymore. So, I'd like to suggest to discuss the next offer. We know, that on our forum there are many funs of the game SABOW. We also know that new tank models in this game will be highly appreciated. Then let's make a question. What do u think, guys, if STA team will get into SABOW development and create, i.e. Chieftain with a cockpit and under user's control? Will it be worth 200EU? I mean, if we collect the mentioned sum, then we'll implement Chieftain+cockpit(T-72?) into SABOW on the base of yours donations. I may assure, that SABOW is an extremely hard for the modding. I'm sure anyone who was involved - had confirmed this was a sentence.
    Also I think, it's possible to make a new missions (or whatever it does) and may be create a new polygon. Though, I'm not sure, coz casual users doesn't has any appropriate tools. He must ask Graviteam to share them with him. Anyway, it could be resolved at any interest from the users. Here we're at er service! Would be pleased to see er replays!
    TEN HUT! HOORAY!



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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by Lord Haw-Haw on Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:14 pm

    lockie wrote:Hold onto your lug nuts...
    it's time for an overhaul!  Cool

    Hi, Guys!
    I'd like to make an announcement as for the new models in SABOW.

    Thanks for the update! I don't always keep up on SABOW latest news.
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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by norrin on Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:55 am

    Hi Lockie,

    I for one would be really interested in SABOW modding as in the past I tried to make a new model of a M60A1 RISE Passive as used by some U.S. Marine units during the First Gulf War for Steel Armor before it was re-released on Steam. I made the model (see accompanying pics) but never managed to get it in game. I have to admit the model wasn't particularly well optimised, but I had planned to use the existing M60 interior so I didn't have to replicate the interior as well and so I could use as much of the existing configuration and coding as possible as I thought this would make my job much easier - no such luck.

    M60a1 RISE Passive (Blender)




    For another project I was working on, I made an M48 based on my initial M60a1 model. I rebuilt much of what I needed as I was trying to reduce the number of triangles used but as you can see I never got much past making the first lod.

    M48  


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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by lockie on Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:56 pm

    Hi, Norrin
    Does tank "M60A1" fit to the "Six-Day War" activity? I suppose that tank "Magach" will be much better. What do u think?
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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by norrin on Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:15 am

    lockie wrote:Hi, Norrin
    Does tank "M60A1" fit to the "Six-Day War" activity? I suppose that tank "Magach" will be much better. What do u think?

    No not as shown in my model, the Magach 6, which was based off the M60, used Blazer reactive armor which looked a little different to the US passive system. You can see the differences more clearly in these 2 pictures.
    Magach 6 with Blazer

    M60a1 RISE Passive


    Interestingly, according to Wikipedia, the Israelis had 120 M48 tanks combat ready during the Six-day War. They even captured a few more M48s during the battle from the Jordanians.

    As I understand it the IDF used the M48 in a few ways, firstly with the standard 90 mm gun, secondly uparmed with a 105 mm gun (Magach 3?) and finally as a basis for many of their other Magach modifications.
    M48 90 mm gun

    M48 105 mm gun - Magach 3?

    Magach 5


    So if the Six Day War is what you have in mind then there's quite a few different ways we could go.
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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by MrCoredump on Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:31 am

    Voted Centurion.

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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by Lord Haw-Haw on Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:47 pm

    MrCoredump wrote:Voted Centurion.

    Until your vote gets answered, we have SB4.0 (L7 105):
    http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Sho%27t_Kal

    Would be nice to play the 20 pounder with the ranging gun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcRpeSSwpvE
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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by plug_nickel on Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:14 pm

    Lord Haw-Haw wrote:
    MrCoredump wrote:Voted Centurion.

    Until your vote gets answered, we have SB4.0 (L7 105):
    http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Sho%27t_Kal

    Would be nice to play the 20 pounder with the ranging gun:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcRpeSSwpvE
    Want to see Centurion also!
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    Re: New tank models for SABOW

    Post by 33lima on Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:58 pm

    FWIW, I think the modding effort would be much better directed to making several of the existing vehicles - Chieftain, Centurion, T-55 at least, maybe also BMP-1, BTR-60PB and Ratel - playable, by adding at least working sight and unbuttoned views for the tank commander, preferably also a gunner's sight view.

    If it's too hard to implement either the ranging MG or the later Integrated Fire Control System of Chieftain, for example, a simplified version would ber better than nothing. Heck, even the ability to play the AI-only AFVs just as the vehicle commander, woud be great.

    Anyway I think a mod which makes many of the current AI-only AFVs playable with TC and gunner's sight views would be much more popular with SABOW players, than one which adds these, plus a 'cockpit', to just one tank.

    Interior 3-D views are very nice to have but not essential, as proved by SF. In SABOW, we could probably have half-a-dozen additional playable vehicles in the same time and for the same effort, by adding playable TC and gunner's sights.

    Animated interior views for one or more could come later.

    PS there is some info on Chieftain sights and FCS here:

    http://graviteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=11849.0

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