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    Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:01 pm

    Вирішив відкрити нову тему присвячену легендарному танку т-34-57 .І показати кілька скріншотів при тестуванні цього танка в місії "Лебедєве".Місія важка, я її теж не зміг пройти:





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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:50 pm

    Пройшов все-таки цю місію на балансі 5:

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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:20 pm

    Визначне досягнення! Я не зміг цю місію побороти pirat
    А як новий танчик? Є зауваження, недоліки? Він геть відрізняється від дефолтної моделі. А зробив його will73!
    Я пам'ятаю, як мучився з прицілом для Т-34/57 Smile У нього приціл від гармати протитанкової.

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    Можливо will73 зробить справжній трофейний Т-34/76 з командирською баштою від Pz.III.


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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:27 pm

    Lockie, все працює добре, без зауважень і приціл точний, б'є без промаху. Very Happy

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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:23 am

    In autumn 1941 the Captain tank ace Lavrinenko near Serpukhov in an ambush on the T-34-57 defeated the German colony of up to battalion and capture more trophy. This battle worthy of a separate mission. Link: http://www.voennoe-delo.com/serpuhov-lavrinenko.htm
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by frinik on Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:06 am

    I agree!He was a real tank ace. He deserves a dedicated mission. Plus Lockie will like him as he has a Ukrainian sounding name Smile
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:08 am

    This mission was implemented a long time ago by Stone2009. It is "Column", GMP2.x. There is only one diff. T-34/76 instead T-34/57.

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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:08 am

    Вирішив для особистого користування просто скопіювати з місії Колобанов в місію Лавриненко по бою біля міста Серпухов і ось при завантаження місії не з'являється на екрані заставка з т-34-57 і текст з місії .Можливо Lockie пояснить в чому може бути помилка.
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:34 am

    Де місія знаходиться?
    I need a screen.

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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:32 am

    Місія перебуває в користувацьких місіях:
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:44 am

    Зрозуміло. Тоді мені потрібна наступна строка з файлу:
    data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\camp\user_camp.engcfg
    наприклад:
    Lavrinenko, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, back_t01.tga, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko.level;

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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:04 pm

    ось картинка:
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:15 pm

    Lavrinenko, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, back_t01.tga, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko.level;

    Назва картинки:
    back_t01.tga - це назва картинки (background image name). Щоб змінити картинку, то необхідно:
    1. Зроби будь-яку картинку під час місії за допомогою F12. Потім назви її наприклад lavr_image.jpg
    2. Цю картинку встав у теку:
    ...data\k42\loc_rus\images\backs\
    3. Пропиши нову назву у строку:
    Lavrinenko, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, lavr_image.jpg, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko.level;

    Цитати:
    txt_cit_01 - назва для цитат. Вона знаходиться у файлі:
    ...data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\SCRIPTS\cm_users\Lavrinenko_loc_data.text
    Наприклад:
    lavrinenko_citates()
    {
    цитата №1;
    цитата №2;
    цитата №3;
    }

    30 - кількість цитат. У нашому випадку їх 3.
    Lavrinenko, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, lavr_image.jpg, lavrinenko_citates, 3, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko.level;


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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:19 pm

    Спасибі друже! Very Happy
    ось текст :
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:33 pm

    Мені потрібен текст. Напиши, як воно прописано. Наприклад:
    kasserine_pz3l, kasserine_pz3l, 1, 0, back_t01.tga, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_his_kasserine, kasserine, levels\levels\cm_users\kasserine_pz3l.level;


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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:43 pm

    ось текст:Lavrinenko_mis, Lavrinenko, 1, 0,back_t01.tga,txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko_mis.level;
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:03 pm

    Lavrinenko_mis, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, back_t01.tga, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko_mis.level;
    В тебе все за дефолтом. Що ти хочеш змінити?
    1. картинку
    2. цитати
    3. історичну довідку
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:19 am

    Назви нову картинку lavr_image.jpg та закинь сюди:
    ...data\k42\loc_rus\images\backs\
    Потім внеси зміни у строку:
    Lavrinenko_mis, Lavrinenko, 1, 0, lavr_image.jpg, txt_cit_01, 30, txt_hist_intro, hist_map_teach, levels\levels\cm_users\Lavrinenko_mis.level;
    А тепер закинь сюди скрін з ...data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\camp\user_camp.engcfg
    ось такий


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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by dukling on Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:10 am

    Хотів замінити картинку і цітати.Только у мене що ніяк не получається. Crying or Very sad
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by weit on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:29 pm

    Noticed one upsetting moment.By what kind of mirracle t34 is destroyed by pak 35 in 700 m distance? ,maybe it happens in all the rest of missions where pak 35 is used,i noticed this just now.Two times started mission and twice t 34 57 been killed in one shot .
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by lockie on Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:45 pm

    weit wrote:By what kind of mirracle t34 is destroyed by pak 35 in 700 m distance?
    Shit happens, but to be more detailed I need to have a look on the picture with damaged T-34/57.
    The main problem of the Soviet armor is a high fragility. The default was 0.7. Now it is 0.6. To be sure that smth. wrong u've to test this tank on the "Firing polygon". There is trophy T-34. Shoot at him from Pz.35(t) to check out the armor quality.
    U can make experiment. Open file:
    data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\tech_cfg\t34_57.engcfg
    find entry
    armor_frail = 0.6;
    change on
    armor_frail = 0.0;
    Save and play.
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by frinik on Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:34 pm

    Uhh I thought the armour frail value only reflected the tendency of the armour to spall inside thus killing the crew through metal shards flying in or by sheer concussion? Reducing the armour frail ain't gonna solve his problem. Let's not forget that shit happens ion battle. Example during an encounter between a KT and a Pershing in Germany in March 1945 the crew of the US tank missed their shot which landed on the ground about 5 metres in front of the KT. However by unbelievable luck the shot bounced off and hit the KT on the lower front which is thinly armoured. The shell penetrated and hit the ammo blowing the tank and killing the unfortunate crew inside.

    So the explanation was it was a lucky shot which found a weak spot on the T34. Or the armour of the T34 is too weak in game. One solution increase the armour quality value form 0.85 to 0.95 without touching the armour frail one...
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by weit on Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:51 pm

    lockie wrote:
    weit wrote:By what kind of mirracle t34 is destroyed by pak 35 in 700 m distance?
    Shit happens, but to be more detailed I need to have a look on the picture with damaged T-34/57.
    The main problem of the Soviet armor is a high fragility. The default was 0.7. Now it is 0.6. To be sure that smth. wrong u've to test this tank on the "Firing polygon". There is trophy T-34. Shoot at him from Pz.35(t) to check out the armor quality.
    U can make experiment. Open file:
    data\k42\loc_rus\levels\levels\tech_cfg\t34_57.engcfg
    find entry
    armor_frail = 0.6;
    change on
    armor_frail = 0.0;
    Save and play.
    thank you !!!
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by weit on Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:58 pm

    frinik wrote: Uhh I thought the armour frail value only reflected the tendency of the armour to spall inside thus killing the crew through metal shards flying in or by sheer concussion? Reducing the armour frail ain't gonna solve his problem. Let's not forget that shit happens ion battle. Example during an encounter between a KT and a Pershing in Germany in March 1945 the crew of the US tank missed their shot which landed on the ground about 5 metres in front of the KT. However by unbelievable luck the shot bounced off and hit the KT on the lower front which is thinly armoured. The shell penetrated and hit the ammo blowing the tank and killing the unfortunate crew inside.

    So the explanation was it was a lucky shot which found a weak spot on the T34. Or the armour of the T34 is too weak in game. One solution increase the armour quality value form 0.85 to 0.95 without touching the armour frail one...

    i ll try .thanks.
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    Re: Test Т-34/57

    Post by weit on Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:12 pm

    another moment ...look at this://толщина брони, мм (при уровне 100)
    armor_thick = 52;
    //броня для ИИ
    arm_fwd = 40;
    arm_side = 30;
    arm_back = 25;
    arm_up = 20;
    t 34 were armored equally from all sides but here we see diferent numbers...what will happen if ill change them to 45 except arm_up?

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