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    frinik
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by frinik on Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:13 am

    I have also argued with Iceman about that but you know many of those who grew up under Communism developed a rather stubborn, rigid outlook on things and an unwillingness to admit that differing opinions may actually matter and be right...

    A tank is like a pressure cooker if there's something inside that exerts sufficient pressure then the lid or turret will fly off... it's elementary physics. Tanks were full of ammo and fuel 2 good reasons why they could end up decapitated.


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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by Txema on Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:30 pm

    Putin, get your dirty hands off Ukraine !!!
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    Post by lockie on Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:38 pm

    Enemy tank group destroyed. Russian T-72 reported.
    http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/323176/ukrainian_army_defeated_terrorists_combined_tank_detachment_near_debaltseve_after_three_days_of_fighting


    According to the InfoResist group, the detachment consisted of 16 tanks. Seven tanks were brewed up in the first day of the offensive, four tanks were destroyed by the Ukrainian artillery strikes during the next two days, and three more tanks have gone out of operation for various other reasons.



    This Russian T-72 was captured by Ukrainian soldiers from 128th Mechanized Brigade!
    GLORY TO UKRAINE!
    http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/323527/ukrainian_128th_brigade_hijacked_russian_t72_tank_near_debaltseve_photos
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:35 pm

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:20 pm

    Waffenruhe in der Ukraine Kontaktgruppe soll sich geeinigt haben
    http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/ukraine/minsk-ukraine-gipfel-39704838.bild.html


    58 Ukrainian ppl were injured, 15 killed after terrorist shelling.
    http://en.censor.net.ua/video_news/324084/consequences_of_terrorist_attack_on_kramatorsk_airfield_video


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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by frinik on Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:07 am

    The Americans want to provide weapons to the Ukraine but the Germans are against it. What's your opinion or the opinion in the Ukraine Lockie? It seems to me the Americans should provide funds and logistical support rather then weapons since you make them locally. What's your take?
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:44 pm

    Yes, Ukraine needs help with weapon and skilled instructors to prevent Russia aggression.


    I didn't expect, when I heard hymn of the Russia. It was equivalent to the USSR. There was no deference.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:37 pm

    Statement by the Press Secretary on Ukraine

    The United States welcomes the agreement reached today in Minsk by the OSCE-led Trilateral Contact Group, which was endorsed by the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Germany, and France. The agreement represents a potentially significant step toward a peaceful resolution of the conflict and the restoration of Ukraine’s sovereignty consistent with the Minsk agreements from last September. We especially appreciate the tireless efforts of German Chancellor Merkel and French President Hollande to reach this new accord. We call on all parties to carry out the commitments undertaken in today’s accord and the September agreements fully and without delay. This agreement must now be followed by immediate, concrete steps to fulfill the commitments by all parties. The cease-fire must be implemented and honored. Heavy weapons must be withdrawn from the conflict zone, and Russia must end its support for the separatists and withdraw its soldiers and military equipment from eastern Ukraine. The true test of today’s accord will be in its full and unambiguous implementation, including the durable end of hostilities and the restoration of Ukrainian control over its border with Russia. The United States is particularly concerned about the escalation of fighting today, which is inconsistent with the spirit of the accord.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/02/12/statement-press-secretary-ukraine
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by frinik on Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:53 am

    You didn't know that the Russians used the former Soviet anthem's music? They changed it under Yeltsin to break up with the Soviet past but they decided to go back to it may be 7 or 8 year ago. I guess the music was so well known and so popular...They just changed the lyrics.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:24 pm

    I remember that russians had original hymn during Yeltsin president, then I lost interest to this country for long time. And only now I was surprised when I heard exactly the same music, but the words suppose other.
    Also I remember that R. Reagan called USSR as Evil Empire.

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by Txema on Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:09 pm

    I hope the agreement will bring freedom and peace to Ukraine.

    Glory to Ukraine !!!

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:08 pm

    Txema wrote:I hope the agreement will bring freedom and peace to Ukraine.
    Glory to Ukraine !!!
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    I hope so, but now Ukrainian Army has a very hard battle near Debaltsevo. And peaceful citizen under shelling.
    "Terrorists shelled government-controlled town of Hirnyk from Grads. Four people died"
    http://en.censor.net.ua/photo_news/324572/terrorists_shelled_governmentcontrolled_town_of_hirnyk_from_grads_four_people_died_photos



    This Russian occupant Arthur Cherny boasted he would capture Kyiv and now he tried to disguise erself as local from Donetsk. I think our Government should organize column from russian occupants and moved them along central street of Kyiv.

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by Tanker on Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:58 pm

    Does anyone truly believe that Putin will honor any agreement that does not give Russia control of eastern Ukraine?
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:31 pm

    I read somewhere, that Bismark said: "Agreement with Russia doesn't cost those paper, where agreement was signed".

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by Tanker on Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:44 pm

    Yes, it's not worth the paper it's signed on.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by frinik on Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:55 am

    Nothing short of economic collapse will really push Putin to back down now. However even if he were to do that the monster he has , if not created certainly fostered, now has a life of its own and may not agree to any treaty between Russia and the Ukraine.

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by Tanker on Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:26 pm

    frinik wrote:Nothing short of economic collapse will really push Putin to back down now. However even if he were to do that the monster he has , if not created certainly fostered, now has a life of its own and may not agree to any treaty between Russia and the Ukraine.

    You are correct in your assessment of Putin I fear. But that monster's life blood is supplied by Russia. If Putin cut off that blood supply the monster would have no choice but to live by a treaty. Putin's aim, and I believe he has achieved it, is to create another enclave like the ones in Moldova and Georgia.

    Short of a ratcheting escalation that may lead to a wider war, there's not much to be done about it. I only hope that it won't go back to business as usual with Russia, as it did after it's invasion of Georgia.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by woofiedog on Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:24 pm

    No matter our own problems of the day which are very small in comparison, my heart & prayer's go out to the people of Ukraine and to their suffering during this totally unnecessary war, that was brought to the very doorsteps of their homes, only because they want a self rule and a government of and by the people of Ukraine.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by will73 on Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:20 am

    Обстріл російськими військами  житлових кварталів Дебальцево. лютий 2015 року.
    Fire by the Russian troops  of housings quarters of Debal'cevo. February, 2015.


    Російські терористичні війська артилерією і системами залпового вогню знищують житлові квартали міста Дебальцево. лютий 2015року.
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Sun May 03, 2015 2:24 pm

    The war in Ukraine is still go on. One Ukrainian soldier Ivan Sotnik was killed by russian terrorist.
    http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/335010/boi_v_shirokino_ne_prekraschayutsya_pogib_boets_batalona_donbass_ivan_sotnik_iz_lutska_foto
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Fri May 22, 2015 10:05 pm

    http://censor.net.ua/n337250

    Сьогодні було звільнено Олега Кузьміних, командира 90-го батальйону 81-ї бригади.
    Слава Україні!
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by woofiedog on Thu May 28, 2015 9:14 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3098407/Now-convoy-Russian-tanks-arrive-rail-border-Ukraine-days-military-trucks-rocket-launchers-spotted-rolling-town.html

    Heavy armor rolls in: New convoy of Russian tanks arrive by rail at border with Ukraine days after military trucks and rocket launchers were spotted nearby.







    Nine tanks arrived in southern Russian town of Matveev Kurgan on Monday.
    Mobile phone snaps show them arriving on the back of a freight train.
    Town is just 17 miles from Ukrainian border, where battles continue.

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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by woofiedog on Fri May 29, 2015 3:55 am

    Then again, there really are people in this world that think, the rest of the world believes the words they spread over the news or other world media today.  Wink


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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:21 pm

    The war in Ukraine is still go on.
    Battle near Marinka is underway, Ukrainian army holds initial positions
    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/338660/battle_near_marinka_is_underway_ukrainian_army_holds_initial_positions_ato_presscenter

    Four Russian GRU operatives killed during attack on Marinka - SBU
    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/338686/four_russian_gru_operatives_killed_during_attack_on_marinka_sbu
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    Re: Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:14 pm

    This is Maryanka after "russian world" visited it. There are many houses destroyed and now citizens without cover. Russian occupants made art-strike during 15 hours.


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