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    Ukraine fights against enemy.

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    Ukraine fights against enemy.

    Post by lockie on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:58 am



    Russian gives their terrorists supply and support with fire.


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    Post by lockie on Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:41 pm

    Shakhtarsk liberated!
    GLORY TO UKRAINE!


    http://ru.slovoidilo.ua/articles/3893/2014-07-27/karta-ato-po-sostoyaniyu-na-27-iyulya.html
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    Post by lockie on Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:33 am

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    Post by lockie on Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:10 am

    Russian "liberators"

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    Post by Kodiak on Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:55 am

    America is for the Ukraine cheers 

    I wish we would do more to help!
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    Post by lockie on Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:44 am

    Kodiak wrote:America is for the Ukraine cheers 
    I wish we would do more to help!
     cheers cheers cheers 

    Savur-Mogyla is under control of Ukrainian troops!
    http://fakty.ictv.ua/ua/index/read-news/id/1522409

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    Post by lockie on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:06 pm

    Ukraine Hero - soldier Volodymir Yakobchuk


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    Post by lockie on Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:06 am

    Ukrainian Forces have liberated Debaltseve!
    http://liveuamap.com/e/2014/29-of-july-ato-forces-have-cleaned-debaltseve?ll=48.31516782783001;38.39996337890605&zoom=9
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    Post by lockie on Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:01 pm

    Meeting of the Contact Group on the Settlement of the Situation in Eastern Ukraine Is Held in Minsk
    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/296211/meeting_of_the_contact_group_on_the_settlement_of_the_situation_in_eastern_ukraine_is_held_in_minsk
    "Face-to-face consultations of the Tripartite Liaison Group (Ukraine-Russia-OSCE) aimed to resolve the situation in eastern Ukraine with participation of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic representatives are held in Minsk," the statement says.
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    Post by will73 on Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:22 am


    Українська армія атакує. Артилерія міняє позицію
    Ukrainian army attacks. The artillery position changes
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    Post by lockie on Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:24 pm

    If somebody see such mark/sign, then be prepared - before you the terrorist!
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    Post by lockie on Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:27 pm

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    Post by lockie on Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:06 pm

    6 серпня.
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    Post by lockie on Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:17 am

    8 August

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    Post by Tanker on Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:49 am

    What is the Ukrainian press saying about what will happen if the Russians invade?
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    Post by lockie on Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:12 am

    Tanker wrote:What is the Ukrainian press saying about what will happen if the Russians invade?
    There are many notes abt Russia provocations. Ukraine is a peaceful country, but ready to defend the territory.
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    Post by frinik on Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:45 am

    I doubt Russian would openly send troops into the Ukraine that would be "Casus Belli" akin to what happened on 3rd September 1939. I think Putin is a bit of a gambler but a very calculating one who looks at the odds and risks very carefully.As a former KGB agent he relies on solid intelligence about his opponents and he knows well Russia's strengths and weaknesses he knows his country is not ready for any kind of protracted strife or conflict.
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    Post by 33lima on Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:19 pm

    Yeah the question now is, how far will Russia go, to stop the separatists from being over-run? Increase supplies? Send in more 'volunteers'? Or if 'push comes to shove', are they prepared to do what China did, back in Korea, 1950? A lot of people in the region and internationally must be wondering what the answer is, to that one.
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    Post by lockie on Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:35 pm

    National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine demonstrated the situation in eastern Ukraine, where the active phase of the anti-terrorist operation is in progress.
    The corresponding map showing the situation as of 12 PM, August 10, was published by the NSDC Information Center, Censor.NET reports.Source:
    http://en.censor.net.ua/p297463
    http://mediarnbo.org/?p=4314

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    Post by lockie on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:18 am

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    Post by Tanker on Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:55 pm

    frinik wrote:I doubt Russian would openly send troops into the Ukraine that would be "Casus Belli" akin to what happened on 3rd September 1939. I think Putin is a bit of a gambler but a very calculating one who looks at the odds and risks very carefully.As a former KGB agent he relies on solid intelligence about his opponents and he knows well Russia's strengths and weaknesses he knows his country is not ready for any kind of protracted strife or conflict.

    The obvious big difference between 1939 and now is that no country is saying that it will go to war to defend Ukraine like France and Great Britain did for Poland. It would not be a casus belli anymore than Georgia was several years ago and Putin knows it. Heck the West can't even come up with a tough response sanctions wise to the shoot down of the Malaysian airliner due to fear of having Russian gas cutoff to Europe. Russia's risks for invading eastern Ukraine would be more of the same from the West that it got for annexing Crimea. More condemnation and perhaps stiffer sanctions. Yes it would risk a short conventional war with the Ukrainian forces and a protracted asymmetrical conflict with Ukraine, supported by the West.

    Putin has a tiger by the tail. He cannot allow failure now that he has championed the cause of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine. His position is in jeopardy if he cannot deliver on the new nationalism he has raised up. I believe he is willing to take the risk of further conflict with the West in order to right what he sees as a historical wrong, the break up of the Soviet Union. I believe he is quoted as saying that it was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.
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    Post by frinik on Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:27 am

    Possibly but Putin is also a realist who can see that his country has lost $ 200 billion in capital flight since the beginning of the year, the Russian economy is contracting and may already be in recession, because of Western sanctions both the domestic car market  and many industries are suffering from shortages of spare parts.The Russian gov has announced a subsidy for consumers to purchase cars in order to jump start the economy. Western Europe is also suffering especially Germany which was the West number 1 exporter to the Russia but Russia depends on Western Europe for 70% of its tradeand Europe has a much stronger economy . Even access to the Chinese market cannot by far compensate.

    As far as the Ukraine is concerned I sincerely doubt the majority of the Ukrainians would want to re-integrate any kind of union with Russia as the big brother. Armenia , Georgia and the former Soviet Central Asian republics have no interest at all.Only Belarus would likely join but with Lukashenko being anything but predictable.... In the end Putin may have no other choice but to cut loose the Russian separatists and make a deal with the Ukraine which would save face.

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    Post by Tanker on Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:05 pm

    Time will tell, but I think there will be an incursion and possibly a wider war. I'd be delighted to be wrong.
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    Post by lockie on Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:42 pm

    This is feudalism. Terrorists in Donetsk tied up Ukrainian patriot and tortured her, because she raised up Ukrainian flag!
    http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/299650/ukrainskaya_muchenitsa_v_donetske_terroristy_privyazali_k_stolbu_patriotku_i_izbivayut_tragicheskoe

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    Post by Tanker on Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:40 pm

    Hard to watch that sort of stuff.

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